Comments on: Berlin Wall: Lessons learned from the collapse seem lost today http://likethedew.com/2009/11/15/berlin-wall-lessons-learned-from-the-collapse-seem-lost-today/ A journal of Southern culture and politics Thu, 18 Mar 2010 02:24:25 -0400 hourly 1 By: Lee Furey http://likethedew.com/2009/11/15/berlin-wall-lessons-learned-from-the-collapse-seem-lost-today/comment-page-1/#comment-7121 Lee Furey Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:36:13 +0000 http://likethedew.com/?p=6635#comment-7121 Right on. And yet no one, conservative or liberal, seems to find a problem with the wall in Gaza. Right on. And yet no one, conservative or liberal, seems to find a problem with the wall in Gaza.

]]> By: Mandy Richburg Rivers http://likethedew.com/2009/11/15/berlin-wall-lessons-learned-from-the-collapse-seem-lost-today/comment-page-1/#comment-7117 Mandy Richburg Rivers Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:53:52 +0000 http://likethedew.com/?p=6635#comment-7117 I’m always amazed to hear the Right shouting about the Constitution and how we, the dirty leftist socialists, want to dismantle it. Then support from these same folks for all the constitutional atrocities that have occurred since 911 (illegal wire-tapping, torturous interrogation, detaining prisoners without trial for 8 years, anger that these prisoners be tried by US rule of law, etc.). Don’t get me wrong, I personally couldn’t care less what happens to the barbarous imbeciles that killed our citizens and defaced America. My point is you can’t scream about keeping the Constitution in tact one day and look the other way when it isn’t being upheld the next. I’m always amazed to hear the Right shouting about the Constitution and how we, the dirty leftist socialists, want to dismantle it. Then support from these same folks for all the constitutional atrocities that have occurred since 911 (illegal wire-tapping, torturous interrogation, detaining prisoners without trial for 8 years, anger that these prisoners be tried by US rule of law, etc.). Don’t get me wrong, I personally couldn’t care less what happens to the barbarous imbeciles that killed our citizens and defaced America. My point is you can’t scream about keeping the Constitution in tact one day and look the other way when it isn’t being upheld the next.

]]> By: C Smith http://likethedew.com/2009/11/15/berlin-wall-lessons-learned-from-the-collapse-seem-lost-today/comment-page-1/#comment-7111 C Smith Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:47:31 +0000 http://likethedew.com/?p=6635#comment-7111 Robert I truely agree with all your statements about President Reagan but the reason the wall was there in the first place was the U.S.A. voted one of our most revered presidents into office one to many times. At the arbiters meeting after WWII the U.S.A. had the upper hand and should have moved the Soviets back to their original border. That weakness then caused the Berlin wall and the cold war for the next 40+ years. Like Walker L. Knight says above Gorbachev was instramental in the wall coming down. Reagan just proded him along. It is a sad fact about our world that any show of weakness then and now will cause accreditation to be lost. Robert I truely agree with all your statements about President Reagan but the reason the wall was there in the first place was the U.S.A. voted one of our most revered presidents into office one to many times. At the arbiters meeting after WWII the U.S.A. had the upper hand and should have moved the Soviets back to their original border. That weakness then caused the Berlin wall and the cold war for the next 40+ years. Like Walker L. Knight says above Gorbachev was instramental in the wall coming down. Reagan just proded him along.
It is a sad fact about our world that any show of weakness then and now will cause accreditation to be lost.

]]> By: Walker L. Knight http://likethedew.com/2009/11/15/berlin-wall-lessons-learned-from-the-collapse-seem-lost-today/comment-page-1/#comment-7108 Walker L. Knight Mon, 16 Nov 2009 05:55:15 +0000 http://likethedew.com/?p=6635#comment-7108 Another player often omitted is Michiel Gorbachev who did not order the guards to fire on those entering East Germany, but to the contrary allowed the gates to be open, but even he probably did not realize the flood of humanity which would follow. Also , as you mentioneld, the ferment in the European countries had brought things to a head, espescallh Lech Walensa in Poland.. I did appreciate you analysis and firsthand reporting. Another player often omitted is Michiel Gorbachev who did not order the guards to fire on those entering East Germany, but to the contrary allowed the gates to be open, but even he probably did not realize the flood of humanity which would follow. Also , as you mentioneld, the ferment in the European countries had brought things to a head, espescallh Lech Walensa in Poland..

I did appreciate you analysis and firsthand reporting.

]]> By: Myra Blackmon http://likethedew.com/2009/11/15/berlin-wall-lessons-learned-from-the-collapse-seem-lost-today/comment-page-1/#comment-7102 Myra Blackmon Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:53:52 +0000 http://likethedew.com/?p=6635#comment-7102 Thanks, Robert, for a reflection that puts so much into its proper perspective. The notion of individual freedom here is really perverted now. Wish I'd written this! Thanks, Robert, for a reflection that puts so much into its proper perspective. The notion of individual freedom here is really perverted now. Wish I’d written this!

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